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Worseacar
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If there's another crooked election in Florida
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freeroaming
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The simple solution here is to stop stupid people from voting in Florida. If you don't know how to vote, then you should not be allowed to vote. Stay home, stupid.
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TerroSquad
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If there is another bullshit election like last time, then it's time to gather up all the stupid people in Florida and drive them into the sea.
And I suggest you lead them numb nuts.
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Worseacar
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There was a report on the radio a couple of days ago talking about the testing conducted for the new touch screen machines in Florida using a mock election. Over forty percent of the votes were not tabulated because the participants forgot to press enter before leaving the voting booth. I thought this type of system would be more accurate. I overestimated the intelligence of my fellow Americans.
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picturepot
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Yawn. No they weren't. Clinton Justice Department holdover Ralph Boyd debunked that lie a long time ago.
Palast is nothing but a leftist career hack who's been proven wrong before, most recently when he blamed the Northeast blackout on the Niagara power grid, just because they had donated money to Bush. He can't even get a job in his own country.
All Florida election statutes in force during the 2000 campaign were passed years earlier by a Democrat-controlled House and Senate and were signed into law by a Democrat governor.
The Gore team never alleged misconduct, fraud or corruption in the course of the recount effort.
The Gore team never requested a statewide recount of the so-called 'undervote.' They knew such a task could never be completed before the Dec. 12 federal deadline for states to resolve election disputes.
The four counties chosen by the Gore team for selective recounts (Miami-Dade, Broward, Palm Beach, Volusia) are liberal bastions. Precinct by precinct, the recount process was controlled by Democrats. Any shenanigans would have occurred on their watch.
At the trial court level, where statutory law is applied to case facts, the Gore team lost every decision. The most famous being Gore v. Harris, in which Judge N. Sanders Sauls (a Democrat) allowed certification of election results to proceed on schedule. Judge Terry Lewis, also a Democrat, ruled several times against Gore.
The Florida Supreme Court's failure to practice judicial restraint and to respect separation of powers was so egregious, it was publicly humiliated by the U.S. Supreme Court.
Bush v. Palm Beach County Canvassing Board generated an appellate decision so muddled that the Supreme Court vacated the Florida court's decision and remanded it back for further review — along with a legalistic admonishment that the higher court couldn't understand what the Florida supremes were trying to say.
Bush v. Gore was not decided 5-4 by the conservative bloc of the Supreme Court. The vote was 7-2, with Justices David Souter and Stephen Breyer joining William Rehnquist, Sandra Day O'Connor, Antonin Scalia, Clarence Thomas and Anthony Kennedy.
This majority reversed the Florida Supreme Court's order for a statewide recount because the standards for determining voter intent would have varied from county to county, thus violating the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment.
The 5-4 vote condemned by sulking Democrats involved remedy: what to do about it. Souter, Breyer, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and John Paul Stevens would have allowed the recount to continue. The majority court recognized that the Florida court 'significantly departed from the statutory framework in place on election day' when it authorized open-ended vote recounts that could not be completed by Dec. 12.
A consortium of news organizations, including the New York Times, CNN and the Washington Post, published its report of the recount controversy after 12 months of analyzing the undervote.
'The United States Supreme Court did not award an election to Mr. Bush that otherwise would have been won by Mr. Gore. A close examination of the ballots found that Mr. Bush would have retained a slender margin over Mr. Gore if the Florida court's order to recount more than 43,000 ballots had not been reversed.
'Even under the strategy that Mr. Gore pursued at the beginning of the Florida standoff — filing suit to force hand recounts in four predominantly Democratic counties — Mr. Bush would have kept his lead.'
'You can change the outcome of any election you want' -Bill Clinton
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Worseacar
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Never happened that way. Don't believe everything Palast claims. How come NO one has ever backed up Palast's allegations?
All Florida election statutes in force during the 2000 campaign were passed years earlier by a Democrat-controlled House and Senate and were signed into law by a Democrat governor.
The Gore team never alleged misconduct, fraud or corruption in the course of the recount effort.
The Gore team never requested a statewide recount of the so-called 'undervote.' They knew such a task could never be completed before the Dec. 12 federal deadline for states to resolve election disputes.
The four counties chosen by the Gore team for selective recounts (Miami-Dade, Broward, Palm Beach, Volusia) are liberal bastions. Precinct by precinct, the recount process was controlled by Democrats. Any shenanigans would have occurred on their watch.
At the trial court level, where statutory law is applied to case facts, the Gore team lost every decision. The most famous being Gore v. Harris, in which Judge N. Sanders Sauls (a Democrat) allowed certification of election results to proceed on schedule.
The Florida Supreme Court's failure to practice judicial restraint and to respect separation of powers was so egregious, it was publicly humiliated by the U.S. Supreme Court.
Bush v. Palm Beach County Canvassing Board generated an appellate decision so muddled that the Supreme Court vacated the Florida court's decision and remanded it back for further review — along with a legalistic admonishment that the higher court couldn't understand what the Florida supremes were trying to say.
Bush v. Gore was not decided 5-4 by the conservative bloc of the Supreme Court. The vote was 7-2, with Justices David Souter and Stephen Breyer joining William Rehnquist, Sandra Day O'Connor, Antonin Scalia, Clarence Thomas and Anthony Kennedy.
This majority reversed the Florida Supreme Court's order for a statewide recount because the standards for determining voter intent would have varied from county to county, thus violating the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment.
The 5-4 vote condemned by sulking Democrats involved remedy: what to do about it. Souter, Breyer, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and John Paul Stevens would have allowed the recount to continue. The majority court recognized that the Florida court 'significantly departed from the statutory framework in place on election day' when it authorized open-ended vote recounts that could not be completed by Dec. 12.
A consortium of news organizations, including the New York Times, CNN and the Washington Post, published its report of the recount controversy after 12 months of analyzing the undervote.
'The United States Supreme Court did not award an election to Mr. Bush that otherwise would have been won by Mr. Gore. A close examination of the ballots found that Mr. Bush would have retained a slender margin over Mr. Gore if the Florida court's order to recount more than 43,000 ballots had not been reversed.
'Even under the strategy that Mr. Gore pursued at the beginning of the Florida standoff — filing suit to force hand recounts in four predominantly Democratic counties — Mr. Bush would have kept his lead.'
'You can change the outcome of any election you want' -Bill Clinton
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myoffe
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On the other hand, we can't believe ANYTHING you say, Craig.
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POYNTONN44
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Yawn. Yes they were.
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